The 'Ghost' of A Living Person/Spirits/Ether

[Synergie]

I am interested to learn what your take is on the subject. There have been reports of people who have seen the ghost of a living person throughout history. Also sometimes referred to as bi-location, and they can either be etherial looking, or some have even been so real looking that they were mistaken for actually being there physically.

Having an occult background, and experience with a form of out-of-body experience called etheric projection, my take is that these living ghosts, are the same sort of entity as spirits that we seek to communicate with. The only difference is that one no longer has a physical body to return to.

Occult teaches there is a sub plane to the physical called the etheric plane. OBEs to this plane have been called 'real time' projections because they are so close to the physical that you see and experience everything physical in very near real time. The next higer level is the astral plane. Since we all have etheric bodies that get cast off shortly after physical death (since etheric is a part of the physical) then crossing over, means moving to the next plane. You can also project to this plane as well, called astral projection, but things are not exactly as they are here, the colors are much more vibrant, and thought can actually affect the surroundings.

okay, how does this pertain to spirits and living ghosts? A living ghost is just someone who is having an OBE in etheric. Spirits that stay around for a long time in etheric whout moving to the next level, are earth bound, and basically stay in their etheric body.

Its not easy to OBE by will. In fact I am only successful about 1 in every 20 tries. All the rest of my OBEs are spontaneous... so I cant control when they happen, I can just control what happens once I am out. But wouldn't it be neat if during investigations, you could use someone who could OBE by will, in etheric - they 'should' be able to see and communicate with the spirit on the spirits own turf!

And getting on to one of my fav subjects (though I am no expert lol)... quantum physics. Super String theory suggests that at the very intrinsic level of things all matter and the universe is really just different strings of vibrations in one big pool of energy. Zero Point energy. Could zero point energy be the proof that scientists were looking for to prove the existence of the 'ether'?? Could they be one in the same?

[Frances Etienne]

You know talking about this subject reminds me of an article I read where a woman from the U.S. was visiting over in Italy. She was in the square with her husband feeding pigeons when this lady walks up to her says hello and starts asking her how her family etc.. was. She did not know this lady,but this lady knew everything about her.She even knew her name.She asked the lady what her name was,but did not recall any person that she knew with this name.They said good bye after about 8 minutes and when she turned around to get a second glance at this woman so she could get a picture of her the lady was no where in the square. When she got back home she asked family members if they knew this lady and only one elder person remembered a person with this name.They researched it and it was a great,great ,great aunt of hers that had been dead for 52 years. they even found pictures and this was the same lady.

[Doris Glowicki]

I also think too that not only can the appearance of a ghostly figure who is known to be living be bilocation it can also be a doppelganger in that quite often a doppelganger appears when the person who it is doubling is quite awake.

[Tim M]

Hi I'm new here just joined yesterday. I have seen the two spirits that haunt my house multiple times in various different forms. First time I saw Amelia (Amelia is a name I came up with. I got sick of calling her spook.) she looked like a living person. My first sighting of her occurred sometime in August 1989. I was only 8 years old and I was terrified. Amelia was dressed in clothes from the early 1900's. I saw the other spirit around the same time. He looked like a living person too, at the time. He too was dressed in a suit that looked to be of the early 1900's. He also looked to be in his 40's. The spirits appeared to me like this a few times and then they stopped appearing. The next time I saw the spirits they appeared differently. They no longer looked like a living person and they were a glowing blue white color. But oddly enough you could still make out there features. I was thinking what if spirits have set energy level like living people do. So when they get tired they can't appear to us and when they are low on energy they can only partially appear to us. Does anyone think my idea could be a possibility?

[Han Ko]

Spirits evolve too. By going into higher astral realms their appearance to us becomes more radiant and generalised. I guess your housemates are doing well.

[Judy Merrill]

Speaking with spirit can be the spirit within the human body while in the living on earth. It can also be the connection with a spirit that is in the afterlife. Spirit is eternal - it is like an energy that once manifest, will never die.

Communication with spirit is done with mediumship abilities.

Ghosts are the 'stuck' close to the earth plane energies. They would do well to progress into the light and a Spiritualist would send them to the light rather than measure and record their energies.

God bless, J

[Han Ko]

I agree with you on pretty much everything, but zero point energy.

Besides an OBE it is also possible to create an astral or etheric double. A part of your energy body (astral or ethereal) needs to be split off (this can happen accidentially or unconsciously or even between incarnations). Then the fragment needs to gather enough energy and consciousness or programming to act independently. This is however rather dangerous since your "shadow" (basically everything you reject in yourself) will start inhabiting this double and the double is very likely to attack you since the hate/rejection tends to be mutual. It is best to achieve Llama-hood before you try this.

When trying to have an OBE you have to feel safe or else your energy will seek shelter in your body where it is relatively protected. This means that OBE's in haunted places are unlikely to happen and indeed quite dangerous if they do happen. Spirits can attack you and even though your energy body tends to be much stronger than that of a not incarnated person their greater number can make things really problematic and damaging. (basically don't do what I did, do what I say)

Communicating with spirits in their own turf is indeed quite wonderful, just be sure to avoid recently deceased humans (within four months) since their desire for life may lead to possession of your body. Spirits of nature are generally a lot safer to interact with as long as you respect their domains and don't go where you are not invited. Happy travels!

[Judy Merrill]

Besides an OBE it is also possible to create an astral or etheric double. A part of your energy body (astral or ethereal) needs to be split off (this can happen accidentially or unconsciously or even between incarnations). Then the fragment needs to gather enough energy and consciousness or programming to act independently. This is however rather dangerous since your "shadow" (basically everything you reject in yourself) will start inhabiting this double and the double is very likely to attack you since the hate/rejection tends to be mutual. It is best to achieve Llama-hood before you try this.

I am not sure I understand you here. Could you elaborate somewhat?

God bless, J

[Synergie]

Actually, a little more experience and pondering and I have actually come to the (self) realization that during an OBE, we never really 'leave' our physical bodies per say, while we are 'out' - The subtle bodies always exist on the other levels.... etheric body, astral body, mental body etc, and we always inhabit all of them... It's more like a radio antenna where the radio receives all the stations at once, but only tunes into one station at a time. We are the radio and the physical level is only one station. Etheric is the next spot on the dial, and astral after that. But when we detune the physical to experience the etheric level (where earth bound entities reside), we never leave the physical to do it.... In fact to completely leave the physical body would undoubtedly have bad results since the etheric or 'vital' energy is what gives the physical life.

Therefore, I do not tend to subscribe to the suggestion that possession can occur during an OBE for that reason. I am not totally dismissing possession either but I think it's more of an external thing going on... like a whispering the subconscious that leads to the physical actions by the power of suggestion of a weakened mind. In fact, I have had literally thousands by now, of OBEs, both Etheric and Astral, and never once have I had a negative experience! And since myself, and many many other people have had spontaneous (happened on their own) OBEs all our lives right from childhood, then if it were dangerous, this would be a very bad thing. But the vast majority of us all report that it was a positive experience... save for those who are a bit overcome with fear of the unknown.

[Rose Wehrkamp]

At the foot of my bed is a man that has been helping me get an miracle. Every night he stands there. He looks as if he is on this side. He is tall as the ceiling, broad shoulder, wearing a robe and very visible to me anyway. He carries a rod that he uses to help but the same rod can hurt if you are on the dark side. He has soft rounded cheeks, a highly long and pronouced looking nose, long and ridged. Im not sure about his eyes I never get to see his eyes much and he often reveals different kinds of faces to me that also exist on the other side. This person emits energy almost like a blanket that he cover you with. A white misty power and glow. Within this glow he sometimes gives visions of future events or people you may meet.
He does look as if he is here physically. There are others also but not as visible as he is.
Mind if I ask a question? How does a person have an obe? Just wondering, because I have tried and havent been able to although I have left my body once by accident. Wasnt even trying to have one haha.

[Synergie]

Most OBEs the typical floating over the body etc, that take place in the apparent physical realm (I say apparent because its actually the etheric plane aka real time zone coined by author Robert Bruce) and most of these types of OBEs are actually spontaneous. In other words the people who experience them never actually try to. Though it is possible to induce them, it takes a LOT of patience and will power and you have to overcome the fear associated with it (unknown) because you need to be 100% relaxed. There is a stage you can play with after total body relaxation, when you start to feel vibrations, that is you starting to unalign with the physical and align with a different higher level (vibrations are the base of everything in the universe) and you can try to mentally intensify those vibrations, you will start to feel almost like spinning and falling somewhat. That is actually the beginning stages of an OBE. If you continue to experiment with this state you can get further and the last physical sensations you will have before separation are rushing static like sounds, they can be loud in your ears. This is also related to the vibrations and electromagnetic energy of your body/etheric body.

There is no easy way to do it though...